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	<title>Comments on: NewMusicBox is 10!</title>
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	<description>TIM’S OBSESSION WITH VIBRATING AIR MOLECULES</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.musicofsound.co.nz/blog/newmusicbox-is-10#comment-2151</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 06:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think my use of the term context is about &lt;strong&gt;how&lt;/strong&gt; the audience appreciates a work - I totally agree music with image is a different thing than music, but it illustrates how &#039;difficult&#039; music that some might reject is accepted via how it is presented to them. 

Another aspect has to be the time factor of perception - I can walk into an art gallery &amp; in a single glance have a reaction &amp; start to form an opinion as to whether the artwork is of interest to me, whereas music can only be heard in real time; in effect it requires that I cease whatever else I was thinking/doing &amp; relinquish control to the real time flow of the music. How long is a glimpse of music? Obviously subtleties &amp; deeper meanings in all artforms take time, but the initial response is what allows (or not) those deepeer meanings to be found.

Its perceptually odd - I certainly find it easier to look at &amp; disregard a visual artwork or image that I don&#039;t like, whereas I am more afronted by music that I dont like..... but that response is different for every member of the audience...

As for the artist/audience relationship... methink that is for another post :) If a tree falls in a forest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my use of the term context is about <strong>how</strong> the audience appreciates a work &#8211; I totally agree music with image is a different thing than music, but it illustrates how &#8216;difficult&#8217; music that some might reject is accepted via how it is presented to them. </p>
<p>Another aspect has to be the time factor of perception &#8211; I can walk into an art gallery &#038; in a single glance have a reaction &#038; start to form an opinion as to whether the artwork is of interest to me, whereas music can only be heard in real time; in effect it requires that I cease whatever else I was thinking/doing &#038; relinquish control to the real time flow of the music. How long is a glimpse of music? Obviously subtleties &#038; deeper meanings in all artforms take time, but the initial response is what allows (or not) those deepeer meanings to be found.</p>
<p>Its perceptually odd &#8211; I certainly find it easier to look at &#038; disregard a visual artwork or image that I don&#8217;t like, whereas I am more afronted by music that I dont like&#8230;.. but that response is different for every member of the audience&#8230;</p>
<p>As for the artist/audience relationship&#8230; methink that is for another post <img src='http://www.musicofsound.co.nz/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  If a tree falls in a forest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: leyton</title>
		<link>http://www.musicofsound.co.nz/blog/newmusicbox-is-10#comment-2148</link>
		<dc:creator>leyton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 05:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have had painting and sculpture move me a lot..

Tim i dont think that your idea of &quot;context&quot; makes sense in describing when one &quot;gets&quot;  contemporary western art music , as once it is paired with a visual it is no longer a piece of music. Its like saying painting doesn&#039;t make sense until it&#039;s accompanied by cooking.
the context is different, granted, but music with image is not the same as music without.. 

also why does something artistic have to have a primary purpose? and why should tht be defined by the listener? surely it&#039;s defined by the composer.. 

thredony to the victims of hiroshima 
handels water music
requiems
gorecki
etc
etc

or the patron :-)


 and where is it written that painting is to be &quot;enjoyed&quot;?

and IMHO context does not necessitate commitment..
though it often tries to tell you it does.

L

ps looks like an interesting book</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have had painting and sculpture move me a lot..</p>
<p>Tim i dont think that your idea of &#8220;context&#8221; makes sense in describing when one &#8220;gets&#8221;  contemporary western art music , as once it is paired with a visual it is no longer a piece of music. Its like saying painting doesn&#8217;t make sense until it&#8217;s accompanied by cooking.<br />
the context is different, granted, but music with image is not the same as music without.. </p>
<p>also why does something artistic have to have a primary purpose? and why should tht be defined by the listener? surely it&#8217;s defined by the composer.. </p>
<p>thredony to the victims of hiroshima<br />
handels water music<br />
requiems<br />
gorecki<br />
etc<br />
etc</p>
<p>or the patron <img src='http://www.musicofsound.co.nz/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> and where is it written that painting is to be &#8220;enjoyed&#8221;?</p>
<p>and IMHO context does not necessitate commitment..<br />
though it often tries to tell you it does.</p>
<p>L</p>
<p>ps looks like an interesting book</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.musicofsound.co.nz/blog/newmusicbox-is-10#comment-2125</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 14:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be biased, but I think part of the reason is that music is a hugely more powerful medium than painting.  I&#039;ve never had a painting, no matter how beautiful, leave me a quivering mess of nerves, make me physically tremble or bring me to tears.  

So perhaps the public is more comfortable accepting a challenge if it&#039;s not going to mess with their emotional state as deeply.   Unless they&#039;ve already committed to that state, as in a horror movie.

But I haven&#039;t read the book yet, I&#039;m waiting for it.  Not sure I&#039;m going to like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be biased, but I think part of the reason is that music is a hugely more powerful medium than painting.  I&#8217;ve never had a painting, no matter how beautiful, leave me a quivering mess of nerves, make me physically tremble or bring me to tears.  </p>
<p>So perhaps the public is more comfortable accepting a challenge if it&#8217;s not going to mess with their emotional state as deeply.   Unless they&#8217;ve already committed to that state, as in a horror movie.</p>
<p>But I haven&#8217;t read the book yet, I&#8217;m waiting for it.  Not sure I&#8217;m going to like it.</p>
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		<title>By: dave romero</title>
		<link>http://www.musicofsound.co.nz/blog/newmusicbox-is-10#comment-2109</link>
		<dc:creator>dave romero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 01:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penderecki on a sunny afternoon?

why not? it really depends on how i&#039;m feeling on that sunny afternoon rather than the sun&#039;s &quot;jovial disposition.&quot; 

like you said, context, albeit of an emotional/psychological kind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penderecki on a sunny afternoon?</p>
<p>why not? it really depends on how i&#8217;m feeling on that sunny afternoon rather than the sun&#8217;s &#8220;jovial disposition.&#8221; </p>
<p>like you said, context, albeit of an emotional/psychological kind</p>
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