Comments on: Tracing a sample to its source…

By: tim

tim — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:39:59 +0000

via google translate: “This smells like resentment and envy.
Nobody was thinking that the issue may have gone unnoticed, having been a failure, not success it was. If it had been, someone would have said something about it?. Furthermore, there is any temita of morondanga. It’s a very fine song melodic development, harmonic and as to the arrangements and the production. A bowling DJ ever compose something similar.
On the other hand, I know that, where Eric and Michel were formed and led a lot of artists do not doubt that they are paid for your cooperation.
They are, in fact, nice guys, humble, for what great musicians they are. And, something that is not minor, always treated with great respect to the 3rd world, something that it is unusual today.
Mass distribution that all these people received from the project Deep Forest never have received otherwise.”

And in response: Deep Forest made serious money using that sample as the hook. They should PAY FOR IT!!!!

By: Zulma Lobato

Zulma Lobato — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:22:18 +0000

Esto me huele a resentimiento y envidia.
Nadie se puso a pensar que el tema pudo haber pasado inadvertido, haber sido un fracaso, y no el éxito que fué. Si hubiese sido así, alguien habría dicho algo al respecto?. Además, no es cualquier temita de morondanga. Es una canción de muy fina elaboración melódica, armónica y en cuanto a los arreglos y la produción. Un DJ de boliche jamás compondría algo semejante.
Por otro lado, me consta que, a donde Eric y Michel fueron, formaron e impulsaron una gran cantidad de artistas y, no dudo que les hallan pagado por su colaboración.
Son, de verdad, buenos tipos y humildes, para lo grandiosos músicos que son. Y, algo que no es menor, siempre trataron con mucho respeto al 3er mundo, cosa que no se estila hoy por hoy.
La difusión masiva que toda esa gente recibió gracias al proyecto Deep Forest nunca la hubiesen recibido de otra manera.

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By: Jamie

Jamie — Tue, 06 May 2008 20:47:32 +0000

Interesting-something I’ve thought about and wondered myself as I’ve gone through my world heritage records, plundering at will; who does own the rights? The recordist? The label/publisher? The original musician(s)?
And in that, was there any compensative measurements taken by ethnomusicologists towards their subjects? If the complaint is that individuals who sample and re-contextualize these recordings are making money off of the musicians, couldn’t it be safe to say that ethnomusicologists are possibly guilty of the same? Those records weren’t FREE, and even if they made no money from selling the recordings, can it be argued that they were rewarded in other compensatory ways, such as academically (which in turn could have buttered their bread)?
I certainly don’t defend deep forest, as they do seem a bit hypocritical-i mean, it sounds as if they didn’t expect to get caught, then scrambled around to justify it-but it seems that I can always accuse the ethnomusicologists of the same foul of ‘colonialism’.
That said, maybe the more appropriate model would have been, cite your source, try to clear the rights (working in archival work in a University, I know how painstaking that can be on old ethnographic material), and then when the money starts rolling in, find ways to donate back through the original community though whatever means possible, or other possible charity like Oxfam.
Great post, Tim. Good thing to think about, especially as found sound producers, collage-artists and sample jockeys start having to dig even deeper for sounds.