Soundcloud Strike One?


Anyone else received one of these?

I got this email (and the previous one) from Soundcloud while I was away down South. It relates to a remix I did of a Laura Mvula track which they (Sony) released the stems for and then asked for remixes to be submitted via Soundcloud. I uploaded my entry to Soundcloud as requested & the remix sat in my Soundcloud account for a year or more, until some dumb ass copyright algorithm ‘found’ it and issued a take down notice to Soundcloud. Now I don’t know whats going on behind the scenes with Soundcloud, but they are obviously trying to do some kind of deal with Sony to warrant such toxic behaviour towards their paying customers. In short, WTF?

Three strikes?
Did this action make me change my behaviour? Nope, I honestly believe I have not breached any such copyright issue. I’ve had to issue take down notices, and it is basically a great big waste of time. But what Soundcloud achieved with their ‘first strike’ warning is this: I IMMEDIATELY started researching an alternative to their services that does not involve Soundcloud. I suspect they just lost a paying customer, so I hope their motives for pursuing contestable copyright infringement by issuing & acting on a notice without *any* involvement or consultation with the possible offender actually serves some viable purpose.

There wont be a strike three – I will be long gone before that happens.
But holy sh+t have I got a great idea about a *better* service than theirs…

And for any soundcloud users, there is some sage advice HERE
and guess what number 1 is?

1. Don’t upload edits, mixtapes or remixes to SoundCloud

Finding great remixes, edits etc is one of the core things Soundcloud was great for… but not any more!
If you have any remixes or edits or anything in your Soundcloud account then you might want to delete them – they are a timebomb just waiting for an algorithm to find them. If the algorithms find three of them then all your content gets deleted! Charming…

As a better example of how such things can be dealt with, when I made the SEAL VOCALS promo I had this idea about using the theme music for THE BRADY BUNCH as a parody. But before I uploaded it I sent a copy to my lawyer – his advice wasn’t a lot of help, it just pointed out the possible issues… So I uploaded two versions to Youtube, one with the Brady Bunch intro & one without. A few days later my lawyer emailed me, having seen me promote the non Brady Bunch version, and asking what happened to the funny Brady Bunch one… Um, I thought I was following your advice… But I actually had uploaded the Brady Bunch version, just to see what happened… which was nothing. Until just the other day when I started reposting all the ‘making of’ videos and rediscovered the Brady Bunch vid. A copyright issue had been identified by Youtubes algorithms, but unlike Soundclouds three strikes/guilt by accusation, all that had happened was this:

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So lets compare the two approaches:

– guilt by accusation
– three strikes and all content deleted

– accusation can be disputed
– copyright infringing material can be removed without further consequence (although not blatant infringement etc)
– my video cannot be monetised by me (unless issue resolved = fair enough)
– my video can be monetsied by copyright owner (but I retain control as can remove infringing content)

The only conclusion I can come to is that Soundlouds approach is immature, unethical & legally dubious.
If they are trying to impress potential funders or streaming services with big labels then this is a VERY misguided way to go about it.
But the real conclusion comes from considering which service I would prefer to use…

All the remixes I’ve done are now deleted from Soundcloud, making it that bit more useless to me…
Now back to that idea…

UPDATE: after a number of email exchanges Soundcloud has removed the ‘first strike’ it gave me…
The remix is still deleted & I have since deleted all the remixes I have uploaded

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